The Rules….For now. July 18, 2008
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Last night Laura and I finally had a chance to talk. We made plans to host Sara and Ron at out house on Sunday night and I still wanted to get a few things off my chest from this weekend. I thought it would be a good time to discuss what I perceive as the rules of our playtime. I borrowed a lot of these from Swingerwife but I would imagine most of them are pretty standard in the swinging world.
1) Both of us have absolute veto power over who we play with. If one of us is not attracted to the couple in question, or we feel that there is no chemistry, then we don’t play with them. Period.
2) Either one of us has the right to “pull the plug” at any time, for any reason. Even if one (or both) of us is in the middle of playing; if the other says stop, we stop, end of story. For that matter, if one of us no longer wants to see a couple that we have played with, then its over.
Apparently Laura doesn’t get this one. She asked what happens if she is mid sex with another person and she wanted to know why she should stop. Sometimes she really amazes me. Ultimately she ended up agreeing with this one.
3) No means no. This is the be-all, end-all rule in all swinging situations. No pressure, no forced anything, ever.
4) We do not compare our playmates to each other. This is hurtful and not necessary. The whole point of swinging is so that we can experience and enjoy other partners who will have different ways of doing things in bed.
We both agree that sometimes it’s fun to discuss what the other partner was doing and what we liked and what we disliked. I don’t think this is a hard and fast rule but obviously other peoples feelings are involved here so a little tact and sensitivity is in order.
5) Open and honest communication is an absolute must at all times. It is the only way that this sort of thing works.
6) In play itself, anything pretty much goes as long as our partners are comfortable with it.
7) We will not play without our partner present. Laura and I would both prefer that the people we play with be our friends. We are not talking about becoming BFF’s but it is certainly important to click outside of the bedroom. A casual night out for dinner and drinks can be great foreplay. If you have been reading my Blog you know that Laura met with Sara and Ron this past weekend while I was away. I was a little uneasy about it. I decided that play would be defined as kissing, touching, oral, or any other intercourse.
“Ahhh I can’t even kiss?”, Laura sighed after reading the rules.
“Hell no! How would you feel if I was kissing another chick while you were away? I KNOW you wouldn’t be happy.”, I said.
Okay. Fine. What else can’t I do?
What do you want to do?”, I said half laughing half shocked that she was so into this.
Are Web Cams off limits?”, She replied
Uhhhhhh no I guess web cams are cool. Why? Do you have something to tell me?
I ahhh well I like to watch guys on web cams.
What What What? Since when?
Well you can watch them on SwapperNET.
Serious? No Shit…So have you?
“I watched Ron today.” , Laura said softly.
It’s cool. It on the acceptable list!
7) Respect and honor all rules that the couples that we play with have with each other.
Safe sex ALWAYS! Condoms are used at all times. We are both
9) We will only have sex with our partner in the same room.
I told Laura I could possibly be persuaded to break this rule depending on the situation but for now I would feel more comfortable with her in the room.
Okay. I am relieved. We both agreed on the rules. Some people <Cough> Laura <Cough> were more reluctant than others. I tried to get her to sign her initials next to each rule (joking) but I was told that “Rules were meant to be Broken”. After we discussed the rules we had some amazing sex. I am a little nervous about Sunday but….I can’t wait!
Thanks for the advice. July 15, 2008
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I had a couple of days to digest the fact that Laura hung out with Sara and Ron at our house ALONE on Saturday night. I want to thank SwingerWife and the Issuedwife on their comments to my last post. It is always nice to get a fresh perspective on something and your comments really helped bring me focus. Anyways I am completely over it. I spent some time talking with Laura yesterday. Since I am in Maine with my Parents and Kids lacking the slightest shred of privacy I had to do most of the talking through Instant Messenger. This whole swinging experience has me in touch with a side of myself that I have never experienced. I feel so connected to Laura and in tune with her feelings. Lets face it we have been together a long time. We have practically been joined at the hip since Freshman year in college. I’ll admit It. I am guilty of not telling her how much I love her and occasionally taking her for granted. I could have asked her to share her feeling more. It’s a lot different now.
I find myself asking her how she is feeling A LOT. More than anything now I want to make sure she is happy. When we talked yesterday we simply agreed that if this was going to work we need to communicate with each other and be as open as we have ever been. I completely agree and you know what? Its refreshing. We have always been best friends and we tell each other everything but sometimes out of embarrassment or fear we hold back. No more. Most of the things I don’t tell her are about sex. How much I masterbate, what I like sexually, what kinds of porn I like, etc. I am not sure she is looking for that level of honesty but LOOK OUT cuz here it comes! We decided we would sit down when I get back from vacation and hash out the details. I can’t wait.
I’ve created a monster. July 13, 2008
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Fuck Me. I am filled with so many emotions I don’t quite know how to put them into words. Fuck comes to mind. What the fuck have I got myself into comes a close second.
I reluctantly decided to take the kids on vacation for a long weekend in Maine with my parents. A friend of the family has a nice little home bordering a beautiful national park and only miles from the beach. My family is crazy about the kids and they really wanted me to bring the kids to Maine. Personally I have a shit load of work to do but I decided I would take my thinkpad and work from the beach. I really respect the fact that my parents want to spend so much time with their grandchilden. They are crazy about them. If my dad doesn’t see the kids at least three or four times a week he gets grouchy. My mother feels the same way. When I mentioned to Laura that my parents wanted us to go away with them she immediately rejected the idea. She had committed to baby sit a friends one year old boy for the week and we have a dog so putting her in a kennel for a few days costs a small fortune.
We spent a good part of the day today driving. Traffic was horrible. All the bostonians were heading up north for a spectacular summer weekend. We didn’t arrive in Maine till almost 1:00PM. Laura called me minutes after we arrived.
“I thought you were going to call me when you got to Maine?”, she asked.
We are just pulling in now. We hit traffic but the kids have been great! I told her. What are your plans today?
Sara and Ron want me to go to the movies with them. – I was hurt
“Oh really. I kinda figured they would reach out to you”.
I lied. I really didn’t think that Sara or Ron would betray my trust like that. I flat out told Sara a few days earlier that I was uncomfortable with the idea of meeting separately. I also told Laura that the idea of meeting separately kinda freaked me out. She said something to the effect that, “We were fucking other people in front of each other. What is the difference if we are in a different room?. I makes sense but it doesnt.
“Are you mad at me? They are bringing their son. It’s not a big deal plus I am all by myself and I am bored” she replied.
“I am not mad. You can go if you want”. She knew just how to diffuse my anger.
We said our goodbyes. We told each other that we love each other and at this point I was okay that she was going out with friends. I mean they had their kid with them so it wasn’t a big deal right?
Maine sucks. We tried to go to the beach but there was no parking and we were starving. We ending up driving around for an hour and ate at this shitty little pub / pizza shop. After lunch we went grocery shopping and headed back to the house. For dinner we drove around for another hour. We scarfed down a few lobster rolls with way too much bread and way too little mayo or seasoning and went to play mini golf with the kids. When we got back to the house and got the kids settled it was almost dark. I started a nice little fire in the pit in the backyard and called Laura to see how the movie was. She answered the phone and I could hear people in the background. A surge of jealousy flashed through my body. I could feel my ears getting red and my stomach was in knots.
“Sara and Ron are here with me. I wanted to show them the house and the home theater. Are you mad at me?”, she said cautiously.
I was mad at her. Really mad. I could barely speak and had to struggle to keep my composure and keep a civil conversation. I told her I was cool and that I trusted her. We said I love you and I told her I would tallk to her later. I spent most of the night outside by myself by the fire. I smoked a cigar and had a couple of Bud Lights and tried to reflect on how I felt about her with our new swinger friends ALONE at our house. My mind was blank. I couldn’t think. I smoked my Cigar and figured I would IM her a little later tonight when, hopefully the guest were gone.
Well. I did IM her at almost ten o’clock and this is what happened…….
Laura: Hey baby wanna fuck
KinkyGeek: lmao
KinkyGeek: nice
Laura: Who do you think this is?
KinkyGeek: no clue
Laura: Take a guess.
KinkyGeek: hmmmmmmm maybe my wife?
Laura: Um, no.
KinkyGeek: Sara?
Laura: Very good. you get a cookie.
Laura: Or anything else you want.
KinkyGeek: lol. What did you move in?
Laura: PS I’m drunk.
KinkyGeek: I am not
Laura: yeah, Ron says we’re waiting for you to get home.
Laura: Laura says to be sure to let you know that nothing’s going on.
Laura: You aren’t really mad are you? I heard her on the phone with you and I don’t want you to be mad.
KinkyGeek: um kay….gonna have to wait till wednesday
Laura: Nothings going on except a lot of drinking and chatting.
KinkyGeek: thats cool. I am sure you and I will chat when she is in Boston
Laura: Oh yea. Let’s CHAT. ” “
KinkyGeek: oh we will
Laura: Chat *in person* you mean?
KinkyGeek: oh yes
Laura: Laura says we’ll take you to the movies.
Laura: Gotta a web cam?
KinkyGeek: so. I dont wanna see everyone sloppy drunk & NAKED while my parents are around
Laura: Aww.
Laura: You have a ncie house, btw.
KinkyGeek: spanks
Laura: We’re not naked btw. Unless you want us to be.
Laura: We could be naked, though
Laura: errr
Laura: shit
Laura: i’m drunk.
Laura: Forgive me.
KinkyGeek: ooooh I am sure you could but then I would be jealous
Laura: Don’t be jealous ’cause really we
Laura: WANT” Y”OU” HERE
Laura: Laura says she hopes you trust her enough to know she’s not doing anything
Laura: you konw, unless you want her to be.,…..
KinkyGeek: I do trust her…I just didnt wanna miss out on the fun
Laura: Does that mean we can do stuff to her and then catch you up later?
KinkyGeek: lol
KinkyGeek: I gotta go….rents are coming down to watch tv with me
Laura: oh dear
Laura: don’t leave us!
KinkyGeek: catch up on ya later
Laura: Ok, have fun.
KinkyGeek: you too
I really need some advice here. I know a few people read this blog and a perhaps a few seasoned swingers. What should I make of this while situation? I am fucking lost. I am so jealous. I don’t know that I actually trust Laura 100% especially when she has a few drinks in her. I will keep everyone posted… Not sure how I am going to sleep tonight.
Lets get it on! July 10, 2008
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Tonight Lara and I went to dinner without the kids. It was a much deserved break for the two of us. At dinner we had a casual conversation but topics quickly turned to swinging. We use code for web sites and people so it is real cute and fun trying to mask our public conversations. I met a new couple online yeasterday and we have been trading E-Mails and pictures. The wife is much hotter than Sara (the couple that introduced us to the “lifestyle”). She has long blonde hair with neat bangs that lie flat on her forehead. She has the typical girl next door look. Just hot enough so that you’re interested but real innocent and sweet to keep you guessing. He is okay looking. About my size. Average build, very little body hair with auburn hair and brown eyes. I am not sure if Laura would be interested in him but apparently I have no idea what her type is. Laura was appalled when I told her that the new couple may know her from her MySpace page. Personally I don’t care if people we know, “find us out”. My personal opinion is that if people are on these sites or attend these parties and they discover us, then we should be fucking them. More likely than not they are not going to ‘Rat us out to their friends”.
On the way home from the restaurant Laura made me stop at the liquor store – or packie for you Massholes out there – to pick up a cold bottle of wine. When we got home it wasn’t long till people started Instant Messaging us. The whole thing is very High School. Strangers and people we barely know instant messenging us but I have to admit it is exciting. Every time I chat with someone I get a flutter in my stomach knowing that some day we could potentially be screwing these people.
I was busy around the house all night. My ADD was kicking in and I can’t sit still for a minute. I started organizing my DVD’s, cleaning up the Playstation and my kids Nintendo Wii games, and blogging. Laura was chatting with Sara and Ron. I was starting to get jealous because I thought she was arranging to meet with Ron while I am away on business next week. She wasn’t.
Laura did barge into my office with her day planner in hand. “We should meet up with them again”, she said. I was a little apprehensive.
“The next week is nuts”, i said. When do you want to meet them again?
How about this Friday?, Laura said.
“Too soon. I have way to much work on my plate.” It was true. I have a shitload of work to do right now but honestly I was buying time. “How about a week from Sunday?”
Laura confirmed our meeting next Sunday with Ron and Sara. Honestly, if I get more sex I am down with this. (Reluctantly)
Last night Laura and I had sex. It wasn’t the passionate, wild sex that I love. It was the shit we have been together too long and I know my husband really needs sex, sex. I FUCKING hate sympathy sex. Part of me thinks it would be fun to meet with Sara and Ron again. I know Laura is way into Ron even though she may not admit it. Honestly, I would rather fuck Beth (See People I reference in my Blog) as she is more my type but I know Sara would really go out of her way to please me. I have never had that. Laura as much as I love her is all about her when it comes to sex. I think Sara would rock my world which is why I agreed to have them over to our house in a week!
Again. This summer is about to heat up! What should I do?
Happy Birthday America! July 7, 2008
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I love the Fourth of July as much as I love America. What a perfect holiday. All the Fireworks, good food, some stogies, booze and good company really make you appreciate the freedoms we are afforded in this great nation of ours. We had a “Vanilla Party” – A new swinger term I learned meaning a non-swinger party – on Thursday night and it poured like a bastard. It was still a lot of fun and it was a much needed break from work. Now the weekend is coming to a close and I am hanging out in the home theatre with my laptop reading some E-Mail. As soon as I sat down I got a IM from Sara. Now Sara isn’t exactly Angelina Jole but she is intelligent, kinky and I have a feeling this summer is just starting to heat up. Since I was a little buzzed I took the opportunity to clear the air between us and I to ask her how she thinks Laura perceived the whole event. Sara told me that Laura told her (confused yet) she, “enjoyed herself more than she thought she would”.
JACKPOT!
I pressed her for more details and I did learn more about Laura. I firmly believe that Laura REALLY enjoyed herself at the orgy and she has been playing it cool with me to see if I was all gung ho about doing it again. I asked Sara her about her fantasies since I don’t think I ever actually asked her what SHE was looking for. Most of them revolved around her getting to “really know” another couple and preferably she would like to spend some quality “alone” time with the other woman. I told her I was freaked out by the thought of Laura with someone else alone. I think I would be REALLY jealous picturing Laura fucking, sucking, and god knows what else with another man (or woman) while I am not in the room. I am really afraid of the unknown. In my mind, there is a clear differenitation between having sex with people in the same room versus going off into separate tooms and fucking each others brains out. Sara said that she felt the same way I did but she ended up breaking her own rule the 1st time they did anything with another couple.
I learned some interesting things about Sara and I think there may be another meeting in our future. I am not super attracted to her but she may be able to fulfill a few of closest most intimate fantasies!
To be continued…
Orgy Aftermath July 4, 2008
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So it’s been a while since I last posted. I have been super stressed at work and have been putting in crazy hours. This week I worked three eighteen hour days trying to finish up a proposal we have no shot at actually winning. It was good in a way because It gave me something to focus my attention on. There was a solid week there where all I could think
about were the events of the Saturday Night orgy. I still play it back in my mind to try and come to terms with what we actually did. I thought for sure there would be some potential fall out between Laura and I but so far that isn’t the case.
The whole experience has been a trip. For me it was a sexual dream come true. Look at it this way. I got to make out with two chicks plus my wife. I got to watch my wife make out
with two chicks (and two dudes but I block that out). I touched both girls EVERYWHERE and got to explore another
womans perfectly shaved pussy with my tounge as my wife was getting eaten out by another girl. I got oral sex from one of the girls and I got to see Laura getting fucked doggy style by another guy while I was busy with Sara. – This actually turned me on quite a bit and it is something I think I need to explore in anoth
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If I had to do it all again (and I hope I get the opportunity) I would have preferred that we didn’t go back to the hotel room with Sara and Ron. It was fun when we were all making out on the dance floor but I don’t think under normal circumstances – Less Drunk – I would have wanted to have sex with Sara (unless it was Anal and then even still I am not so sure). It would have been better to focus entirely on one other couple. Six people in a hotel room naked and fucking was just waaaaay to much going on for my brain to handle. I remember looking up from licking Beth and seeing her with a cock in her mouth and then I look to my right and see Laura getting eaten out while she has a cock in her mouth. I actually didn’t see her with the cock in her mouth but she has since told me she was.
I have been feeling extremely close to Laura after the experience. I think it really opened my eyes to a lot of things. I notice that I am way more attentive to how she is feeling. In a way I sort of feel like the chick and I feel she is acting more like a guy. After my proposal was submitted and the kids were in bed I smoked a little green and pressed Laura for her thoughts on the whole experience.
What happened on Saturday? I still don’t know if you actually enjoyed yourself or if you are mad at me or what the deal is. I asked her.
Why would I be mad at you?
I don’t know. Maybe you are jealous that I was licking another woman and things got out of control?
I was a little jealous when I though I saw you fucking Beth but I wouldn’t have done anything if I didn’t like it or I wasn’t into it.
Wow. Okay. I didn’t know what you were thinking the whole thing just happened soooo fast. I mean we were literally 30 seconds into the hotel room when I saw Sara lie you on the bed, rip your pants off, and start eating you out!
I know it happed so fast. You looked like a deer in headlights.
Damn right I did! I didn’t know what the fuck to do! I liked Beth but she had Ron licking her while i was kissing her neck. It was a little weird….So was Sara good at oral?
Sara was amazing the way she licked me but I would have liked to go down on Beth! I still haven’t tried pussy yet.
I asked Laura if she felt closer to me or farther apart.
“About the same”, she said casually.
I feel closer to you and I am surprised you don’t feel closer to me
“Why do you feel closer to me?”
Because we both shared a crazy experience that only you and I know about. You work friends, your family, when I look at you now I know in my mind how wild you are and its our little secret!
Yeah. I guess if you put it that way I do feel closer to you.
G Thanks!
After that I asked her what her favorite and least favorite thing was that night.
Favorite
Kissing a girl and getting eaten out by a girl.
Least Favorite
Getting fucked doggy style by Ryan. He was apparently too rough. (Beth likes it rough FYI)
Final Thoughts – Feedback
I would welcome any and all comments and feedback on the whole experience. Despite the pretty good conversation with Laura I am still not certain where we stand on this. I suspect that she would be willing to do it again. I would imagine if she didn’t want to do it I would know. A couple of comments she made make me feel like she would try this or other variations of swinging. In the car on the way home from the hotel that night I could have sworn she said, “I still haven’t had a MMF threesome or tasted pussy”. Second, during our conversation above she said she kind of liked the fact that there were six people in the room with naked body parts all spread out on the bed. She said she felt like she was in a porno.
Amen to that!
